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Thursday, November 17, 2011

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Bill Fleming

The SCOTUS judges can only get "Borked" BEFORE they are appointed. Once appointed, only THEY have the authority to recuse themselves and, as I understand it, are not subject to any review. So your whole point is pretty much moot here isn't it, KB?

KB

I said "attempted Borking" and conceded that it is not likely to succeed. The Court, however insulated it is, is not immune to political pressure. It is not unreasonable to reply to bad arguments.

Bill Fleming

Just double checking the protocols. An "attempted Borking" would be the Congress deciding to impeach one of them for refusing to recuse, wouldn't it? i.e. The people didn't "bork" Bork, Congress did.

KB

We're going to have to work harder to find some disagreement. It is not inconceivable that one side could bring enough public pressure against a member of the court that he felt compelled to recuse himself. The real threat, as you note, would be impeachment if a judge did not recuse himself in a case where it was very plainly warranted.

What bothers me about the recusal controversy is that it is another example of scandal invention. I see no scandal in Kagan having worked for the Obama Administration or Gini Thomas working for conservative activist organizations. If these things came to be seen as scandals, that would be damaging to the political process regardless of what affect is has on this case.

Bill Fleming

So you're criticizing the partisan grumbling?

Ken Blanchard

I am criticizing the fact that Kagan had to recuse herself in advance. She promised to do so in any matter that she was involved in. The consequence of that is that she is now forced to break a promise. This is real stuff, not just "grumbling". I think it is absurd.

Bill Fleming

Why is she being "forced" KB? I don't follow your reasoning. Who is forcing her?

Ken Blanchard

She promised to recuse herself in any matter in which she was involved as Solicitor General. Can she really have been altogether uninvolved in the preparation of the Administrations case for ACA? If so, then she is breaking no promise, she was just prevented from doing her job back then. This is absurd. If some important case arises in which she was involved, on record, will she recuse herself then? Would you have her do that, if her vote might make the difference about something you care deeply about? I predict that the promise will go out the window. It should. She should never have had to make it in the first place.

Bill Fleming

Okay, I think we do in fact agree. Thanks for the clarification. Regarding her promise, there perhaps is a better argument that she felt compelled to make it than there is that she will be forced to break it.

Akiro

Maybe HW will be right.But as others say, the Catholic Question has beomce very interesting. Will they vote Catholic/brown (pro-integration with their own ex-slaves from South of the Border) OR to uphold the possibility of states rights over the fed.Since the Hart-Celler, with catholic involvement, THEN Kennedy saga, then insisting papacy being acknowledged as a government in its own right by getting its embassy in washington in the 80s, and so on through all this, there seems to be an awakening among them that maybe the great Empire Universality is not going to be best for their own families in the long run, and that, as much as they hate them, maybe Anglo-Saxons / protestants have a couple potentially good points and brain cells, after all. They will back Arizona. The climate's changed. On t.v., when the WASPS were eradicated from the Supreme Court, they made a big deal out of it. For awhile on t.v., all wasps heard was the law would be Catholic and Jewish (some of whom talk openly about using the Court to Create the Social REality they wish, in other words, a dictatorship).At that moment, for some people, it became apparent they were in a Catholic-Jewish Dictatorship just like how the communists and fascists always square off in Europe. very foreign to many American minds, and their own reality about it and confusions, non-translatable.

Lucia

jpe Interestingly, Judge Reinhart's reasons for were desimssid as absurd across right-wing media. And as much as I dislike Prop 8, I'm not sure I agree with Reinhardt's reasoning, either. But in regard to Thomas, the financial gain link is even more direct. Ginny Thomas is taking money from people who oppose health care reform mostly because they have a vested interest in the status quo. On the other hand, the ACLU's positions, which are not limited to gay rights, are based on political philosophy not financial gain. Judges have recused themselves from cases for a lot less.

Christoper

Border control is, under the Constitution, a feeadrl responsibility. So it's likely the SC will decide in favor of the DC gang .Fact that the feds are refusing to secure the border is irrelevant to this legal issue. The only way states will get control of their borders is via SECESSION from the DC gang. A SupremeCourt decision in favor of the DC gang will be one more reason for states to SECEDE from this destructive Jew-Globalist regime.

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