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Sunday, January 09, 2011

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Miranda

While I am reluctant to agree that all this boils down to is bad genes, you may be right that the attack itself meant nothing.

Nevertheless, I think that the reaction to it means something. The quickness with which both members of the press and of the Democratic concluded that this act must have been due to the influence of conservatives is significant. Dick Durbin's hints that Sarah Palin's "Don't retreat, instead RELOAD" comment had something to do with this are also, I think, a bit shameful and opportunistic.

Perhaps the most interesting reaction so far, though, is this one, as reported by CNN:

"Rep. Steny Hoyer, D-Maryland, told CBS' `Face the Nation' that he had spoken with Giffords' husband, Mark Kelly, who is `very angry about the level of angry rhetoric that he believes incites people.'"

Bill Fleming

I don't really believe you are saying there is no "meaning" here, KB. The moment is absolutely pregnant with profound meaning... albeit ineffable.

George Mason

This individual was listening to the voices in his head and nothing else.

Bill Fleming

it's perhaps worth considering that the entire body of philosophical and theological thought is an exercise in finding meaning in the seemingly meaningless.

KB

Bill: sometimes the meaningless of an event is the meaning.

Miranda: I don't know to what degree Mr. Loughner's actions were influenced by his genes, his unique environment, or his actions. I am sure it was some mix. I just don't think that this event says a lot about "society", let alone about Democrats or Republicans. It just says that in a large, open society, you are going to get a few dangerous screwballs. Sometimes wisdom means recognizing that there is nothing wise to say about something. It just plain happened.

Bill Fleming

KB, sometimes. Similarly, sometimes a seemingly meaningless event can be a catalyst for something profoundly meaningful. My gut says the Arazona event is one of those. A crossroads of sorts. Not a "cause and effect" situation, but rather a synchronicity. A tipping point and perhaps... even a catharsis. A game changer.

Bill Fleming

Arizona.

Jimi

Bill,

I disagree....it is going to come out that this guy was an Obama supporter, a who believed in the "Progressive" philosphy, and just like all the others it will be swept under the rug by the MSM, and it will be forgotten about soon, not to be mentioned publically.

Bill Fleming

Well, Jimi, let's just say your crystal ball is better than mine. Regardless, the conversation I'm talking about has already started, will likely continue, and is not likely to be contingent upon which political ideology the kid from Tucson subscribes to.

Miranda

Dr. Blanchard: That I can agree with!

Jimi

Bill,

"the conversation I'm talking about has already started, will likely continue, and is not likely to be contingent upon which political ideology the kid from Tucson subscribes to."

Exactly what conversation are you refering to?

Look from my perspective, this event most likely was bigger than just political disagreements. This guy had some issues, maybe a chemical inbalance...who knows...but the point is the Left is running out and immediately pointing the finger at Republicans and Conservatives....Why? There is no evidence for that, and in fact, if the below pieces of evidence are true, then in my opinion, this guys was way more aligned with the Left than the Right.

1.) Favorite Books - "The Communist Manifesto" - "Animal Farm"
2.) Into Occult
3.) 911 Truther
4.) An Atheist

Bill Fleming

Yes, Jimi, there are insane people of all political persuasions. The conversation I'm talking about is about us all turning down the emotional thermostat. About how we're all Americans, and about how it doesn't do any of us any good to point fingers at each other.

Jimi

Bill,

O.K. Fair Enough...There is common ground there!

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