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Saturday, January 29, 2011

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larry kurtz

You're being a little hard on an administration that has let Paul Zuckerberg direct the revolution, Doc. End of his story? You might be on to something. Maybe it's orbital forcinghttp://www.sbg.ac.at/ipk/avstudio/pierofun/transcript/EMI.pdf

Stan Gibilisco

In my view, history always ends at the present moment! I suspect that some of humanity's greatest adventures and challenges lie ahead.

In 500 years, today's events will constitute history.

In 50,000 years, we might reasonably suppose that today's events will fall into the purview of archeology -- if archeologists exist.

Donald Pay

I think there are powerful forces lined up against modern liberal democracy. Radical Islamists are just one such force. Conservative Christianity is another. Multinational corporate power is another. Narco-paramilitaries, pirates, and the anarchic forces in failed states are another. State-corporate authoritarian states are another. To what extent the US has moved from a liberal democracy closer to a state-corporate authoritarian state is something we could debate. The world is a hell of a lot more complicated than the sugar-coated analysis of people looking back at history during the immediate post-Wall period.

Ken Blanchard

Donald: Conservative Christianity is "a powerful force lined up against modern democracy?" You must be smoking some of Larry's doctored weed. None of this contradicts Fukuyama's point, which wasn't looking back to the Post-wall period, but to ancient Greece and Rome.

Jimi

Donald,

"I think there are powerful forces lined up against modern liberal democracy. Radical Islamists are just one such force. Conservative Christianity is another. Multinational corporate power is another."

Wait.....you said that wrong.....

"I think there are powerful forces lined up against modern liberal democracy. Radical Leftists & American Democratic Socialists are just one such force. Obama is another. Crony Capitalists are another."

There....Fixed it For You! :)

Miranda

The End of History was one of my favorite readings from class - probably because the thesis seemed so radical, but it was challenging to try to find something to contradict it. I still reject the idea that history has necessarily ended.

There are a few reasons for this. One is that history need not be good to be history. One can see a thesis and antithesis still meeting and producing something new. Second, man could change. Suppose, for instance, man evolved, not just physically, but also morally. Suppose he became completely altruistic. Would Liberal Democracy be necessary? Would it be the best form of government? Perhaps not. Or suppose most men went entirely mad. Would majority rule be desirable?

larry kurtz

Ms. Flint, thank you for exonerating me: http://lanl.arxiv.org/abs/1101.4968

larry kurtz

How is South Dakota any different, Ken? You've got a rubber stamp executive for an authoritarian governing body TEAtering on the brink of violent unrest.

Miranda

Mr. Kurtz: Oh no! You're on to me!

More seriously, though, democracy is of little use to slime molds. If we can evolve from the slime mold state into a man, is it really so preposterous to suggest that we might evolve into something completely different from what we are? Unless, of course, we've reached not only the end of history but the end of man. I suppose man COULD be the final thesis.

I am not saying that either of the scenarios I gave are likely to happen, I am only trying to point out that concluding that history has ended could be premature.

Miranda

Also: South Dakota isn't anywhere close to Egypt. Our TEA parties have, in some cases, been more like potlucks than protests.

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