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Sunday, November 01, 2009

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IU ERIK

Honest Conservative opposition wins elections and changes the fabric of this country.... Be true to who you are... Not who they say you should be! Vote for who you are and what you beleive...

A.I.

Honest opposition is a two-way street. Why can Republican conservatives not abide moderates within the party? At this point, there is no liberal wing and people like Newt Gingrich are considered moderate. All I can say--as someone who would have voted for Nelson Rockefeller had he won the 1968 nomination--is wow, how ideologically pure and wholly unacceptable the party has become to a lot of voters.

There is one big difference between the Liebermann and Scozzafave situations. Liebermann lost in a primary while Scozzafava was pushed out of the general. Both were "victims" of their party's respective bases, true. But, the traditional way for the base to advance their candidate is through the primary process or as part of the party hierarchy, as would have been the case in NY 23. Instead, NY conservatives mounted a challenge from without to instill the base's ideological purity on the rest of their party. I know Lincoln expressed concern about "a house divided", but he wasn't talking about creating an ideological monolith in the party he helped to found.

As for taking Frank Rich to task for comparing the Republican purge to that of Stalin, consider he was commenting in the context of Obama's opposition likening him to Hitler and his ilk. So isn't criticism of Rich a case of calling the pot black while giving a bye to the kettle?

KB

Republicans have no trouble abiding moderates. Perhaps you have heard of Olympia Snowe of Maine? Kay Bailey Hutchinson of Texas? And then there was the fellow, what was name, oh yeah, John McCain, the most recent Republican nominee. It might be that the GOP is a bit more monolithic, as you put it, right now. That's largely because the Democrats won a lot of seats in conservative districts in recent years. But do I not remember Michael Moore and others threatening to target any Democrat who didn't support the Obama agenda? Speaking of pot and kettle syndrome.

You are right that the Democrats took out Lieberman in the primaries. They did so because he disagreed with the activist core of the party on one important issue. On that issue, national Democratic activists insisted on a "monolithic" party. In New York 23, there was no primary. Scozzafava was chosen by party leaders, but she failed to generate any support. She was in fact to the left of her Democratic rival and was perceived to be a the sort of "Republican" who would side with Nancy Pelosi on pretty much everything. It is not unreasonable for Republican voters to insist that their candidate be distinguishable from a Democrat! Republican support quickly coalesced around Hoffman because that was the only choice available to the party rank and file.

If someone compares Obama to Hitler (as was done to Bush by Moveon.Org), that is stupid and reprehensible. For Rich to say what he said is equally stupid and reprehensible. Two wrongs don't make a right.

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