« Some Rules for Commenters | Main | Why Worry? »

Saturday, August 08, 2009



Well if their tactics involved some form of genuine debate or display of some knowledge, but they don't.

"At a recent town hall meeting, a man stood up and told Representative Bob Inglis to “keep your government hands off my Medicare.” The congressman, a Republican from South Carolina, tried to explain that Medicare is already a government program — but the voter, Mr. Inglis said, “wasn’t having any of it.”"

From the article you're quoting. -
"There was a telling incident at a town hall held by Representative Gene Green, D-Tex. An activist turned to his fellow attendees and asked if they “oppose any form of socialized or government-run health care.” Nearly all did. Then Representative Green asked how many of those present were on Medicare. Almost half raised their hands."

The point is that, like the birther people, their arguments are not based on information but rather some gut reaction. The best way to counter these astroturf campaigns is information. But there are a lot of right-wing microphones like yours amplifying the disinformation making it hard to do. The service you render regarding the health care debate is very harmful.




A movement of willful ignorance that appears to encompasses a majority of republicans...


Since you don't seem to click my links I'll post the polling information here.

Do you believe that Barack Obama was born in the United States of America or not?
77% Yes, 11% No
Dems: 93 / 4
Reps: 42 / 28
inds: 83 / 8


It’s funny we hear Republicans say that they do not want “faceless bureaucrats” making medical decisions but they have no problem with “private sector” “faceless bureaucrats” daily declining medical coverage and financially ruining good hard working people. And who says that the “private sector” is always right, do we forget failures like Long-Term Capital, WorldCom, Global Crossing, Enron, Tyco, AIG and Lehman Brothers. Of course the federal government will destroy heathcare by getting involved, Oh but wait, Medicare and Medicaid and our military men and women and the Senate and Congress get the best heathcare in the world, and oh, that’s right, its run by our federal government. I can understand why some may think that the federal government will fail, if you look at the past eight years as a current history, with failures like the financial meltdown and Katrina but the facts is they can and if we support them they will succeed.

How does shouting down to stop the conversation of the healthcare debate at town hall meetings, endears them to anyone. Especially when the organizations that are telling them where to go and what to do and say are Republicans political operatives, not real grassroots. How does shouting someone down or chasing them out like a lynch mob advanced the debate, it does not. So I think the American people will see through all of this and know, like the teabagger, the birthers, these lynch mobs types are just the same, people who have to resort to these tactics because they have no leadership to articulate what they real want. It’s easy to pickup a bus load of people who hate, and that’s all I been seeing, they hate and can’t debate. Too bad.


Hear hear, Paul.


paul, nobody is saying that the private sector is always right. i just prefer the freedom of people, even to be imperfect, over a government-controlled system, even if the government option is perfect.

you and your fascist friend are the anti-patrick-henrys. you hastily trade freedom for health care. go ahead. but i think you'll find, someday, that's a mistake. look no further than massachusetts to see how it all plays out.


It is very American to want to help our fellow countryman. I believe in my government especially our men and women in our military, firefighters and police. You, not so much. Lets face it the previous administration did nothing (except start two wars of choice that are bankrupting our country with all the “war profiteering” contracts to Halliburton) well you and I will just have to agree to not agree. I did not believe any of the Republican rhetoric before the last election and I do not believe them now. I do not believe that your sentiments are in line with the majority, but I did real enjoy your comments, good stuff.


Lexrex is saying here that he prefers anarchy.

B. T. Marking


We're not debating the need for health care reform. We "mobsters" are just
pushing back against those in Congress who claim they have the wisdom to fix
the problems they created in the first place. Their record in that area is so enviable -- Ha!

Things would be going much smoother if the "Stimulus Bill" had been an evidence-based approach to job creation, instead of a collection of every pork project that could be thrown together overnight. With that fiasco as a backdrop, is
it any wonder some people are shouting?

None of us even knows what legislation we're supposed to debate. There are
still several versions in the works. Once we have a single proposal, perhaps
civil debate can begin. I'm hopeful. But unless TORT reform is Step 1, I'm
also very skeptical that our legislators are thinking clearly.

The comments to this entry are closed.