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Tuesday, June 16, 2009

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Chester

Well said, interesting comparsion between Rome and China. I am glad that even in authoritarian China, there will be those who cannot tolerate official injustice.

A.I.

"There are those who say that republican government is a mere western conceit, one which we would be unwise to encourage in other peoples." Who says that? Some crackpot maybe, but no one I know who has any broad credibility Left or Right in this country.

Would I be presumptuous or thin-skinned in inferring the Left is being criticized here for being to timid in use of the "blade" against tyrants. If not, I would note both stories you cite relate to internal struggles against tyranny and for justice. Yes, the Left is hesitant to exert military force against tyrants in other lands, not because they think it unwise to encourage democracy, but because they understand external threats can be counterproductive.

And, the Left is no more shy than the Riight about getting rid of domestic tyrants. The real difference tends to be how tyranny is defined.

KB

A.I.: My friend, the American Left has fallen in love with one murderous tyrant after another since, well since 1917. Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Ho, Castro, were actively supported by large sections of the Left. That tendency is much less pronounced today because so many of Red Tyrannies no longer exist.

But it hasn't gone away. Colombian soldiers were able to rescue French hostage Ingrid Betancourt without firing a shot. How? They landed in helicopter flying the flag of an international relief organization. The Communist rebels assumed that meant they were friends. And when Castro cracked down on independent librarians, and threw a bunch of them in the slammer for (hold your breath) lending books, the American Library Association sided with ...Castro. In fact, the ALA leadership and a good portion of its membership has long been smitten with Fidel. So I think there are other reasons beside a concern for counterproductive strategies that makes a good part of the Left loath to intervene in favor of democracy abroad.

I am not saying that everyone on the American Left supports communist dictators. I am sure it is well below 50%. But among the activist Left, it is very common. The ALA isn't a small organization. Just like Pat Buchanan has a soft spot for Nazis, the Left has a soft spot for strong men flying red flags.

As for domestic tyrants, when was the last time we had one of those? Some on the right will point to Obama, but they are, as you put it, crackpots. The same word is appropriate for those who point to George the Second or any other American President.

Finally, my point was precisely that the definition of tyranny is not hard at all and is not subject to cultural bias. Lucretia and Ms. Deng defined it quite nicely with their respective blades.

debt relief

she should get a fair trial and that is b.s. she got in trouble for stabbing the man who was going to rape her

KB

debt relief: I should have pointed out that she got her hearing, and was let off without charges. One more happy ending, in addition to her fruit knife.

gao

just a comment that with Chinese laws rape is in par with other crimes like murder, poisoning, arson etc that can invite a death penalty.

KB

gao: If what you say is true, and I certainly have no reason to doubt it, then the surviving pair of the gang of three who tried to rape Ms. Geng should be in deep doo doo. I wouldn't hold my breath for that one.

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