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Friday, June 05, 2009

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caheidelberger

So do we have any examples yet where Sotomayor's professed Latian wisdom has led to legally unsound judgments that put compassion and caring above the rule of law? Does her approach to differ dangerously or fundamentally from that of the nine individuals currently serving on the court, whose separate wisdoms frequently lead to differing if not opposite conclusions about the law?

caheidelberger

...Latina wisdom. Latina. I was obviously thinking ahead to the day when we get the pleasure of analyzing a nominee's Laotian wisdom.

HernandeUSA

Which part of RACIST do you Liberals not understand?

OLD RACISM IS BAD AND NEW RACISM IS NOT BETTER!

Using the Bench to push your personal agenda is unethical for a Judge.

Majority of her rulings have been turned over.

Compelling Sunday movie life's don't make good judges, common sense does and FOLLOW THE LAWS to the letter!

KB

Cory: Easy way to test this. If either John Roberts or Sam Alito had said, on two or three occasions, that White males would reach better conclusions on the bench than Latina women, would you consider that a serious mark against him? I am guessing you would take it very seriously, and it probably would have resulted in the withdrawal of the nomination.

If you say it's not the same thing, then I think that is much worse. Not guilty by reason of gender and ethnicity is pretty much what racism is about.

HernandeUSA:

This might be the first time I have been called a liberal. I am a conservative with some libertarian sympathies. I explain what I think racism is and why it doesn't apply to Judge Sotomayor's statement. Perhaps you should try to address my arguments, if such is not outside your comfort zone. And by the way, rulings are "overturned" not "turned over."

Erik

KB:
I think it is also important to remember that Supreme Court nominations have always been part of a regional or religious or ethnic spoils system (I'm channeling Jeffrey Toobin here). So really, the Sotomayor nomination is nothing new. Other than that she is a Latino-American woman from Queens;-) I agree her hearings should be very interesting. As Robert Bork once put it, the Supreme Court is an intellecual feast. Or maybe he was just hungry;-)

caheidelberger

Hernie: stop shouting and answer the question: where do we see any evidence that what Sotomayor has said has led to unwise judicial decisions or is any different from the multiple and opposing conclusions that judges of good conscience currently on the bench can reach?

caheidelberger

KB, if my wife told me she could reach more caring and compassionate decisions than I, I might believe her (she tells me that evolutionarily, women exist to keep men from killing the kids by doing stupid things like riding saber-tooth tigers... or dirtbikes).

Let me step on perhaps thinner ice: what would think of the argument that, if Sotomayor's comments are excusable where hypothetical equivalents from white males would not be, that excuse comes not from gender or race but from power status? White males are the traditionally privileged group; as we try to negate that privilege, are comments that defend that privilege different from comments that challenge it? (I've never liked this argument myself, but I'm curious about other opinions.)

KB

Cory: forgive the belated reply. You are making (in a very careful, non-committed way) the familiar argument that only the dominate class/race/ethnicity can be guilty of racism. I believe the Modern Language Association blesses this view by defining racism as "prejudice plus power."

But this is a transparent attempt to win an argument in advance by defining the other side as wrong. It is particularly aimed at justifying the various forms of affirmative action: it can't be racist to discriminate in favor of minorities, because they aren't, as you put it, "privileged." I don't believe in granting anyone a license for bigotry.

Besides, the distinction is unworkable in practice. In a city where the mayor and a majority of the city council is African American, what color is the power structure? Do we really want to say that Whites, in such a place, suddenly become better judges than Blacks? Meanwhile, with an African American President, who exactly has "power status"? Clearly Barack Obama's race was a powerful asset in the recent election.

You were right to somewhat disown this argument. It is full of holes.

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