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Thursday, March 15, 2012

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larry kurtz

Hey Zeus! Give you an inch and you take a light-year, Doc. Your armchair quarterback-stabbing ignores the tail growing the dog to wag in the last game.

Your smoke and mirrors are nothing if not hiding defense contractors snorting Koch.

Bill Fleming

News today is that Karzai and the Afghan government don't want our soldiers in their villages anymore. Period.
Good. Bring them home then. ASAP.

Donald Pay

Karzai and much of his government is corrupt and has little support. Bush looked the other way, propping up a corrupt government without insisting on change. Obama hasn't. Karzai pines for the days of the Bush Administration when taxpayers' money flowed freely down a corrupt rathole where his family skimmed off a good chunk before it filtered down to its intend purpose. Obama understands the limits of the Karzai government. it's a pity you don't.

Mark Anderson

Yes, I'm sure that if Obama and Karzai were buddy buddy, you wouldn't have anything bad to say about Afghanistan. At least Obama killed Osama, I like saying that, that's our man isn't it?

larry kurtz

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/march_2012/48_blame_bad_economy_on_bush_recession_46_blame_obama_s_policies

duggersd

"Karzai and much of his government is corrupt and has little support." All the more reason for Obama to cozy up to Karzai. Birds of a feather, dontchyaknow.

Ken Blanchard

Donald: what Karzai is or was, we were his ally in a war. The President had the choice to pull a lot earlier and instead he decided on a surge. Maybe it was part of his responsibility to actually talk to Karzai once and a while. Of course, that was not to be expected since the President doesn't bother to talk to anyone.

Ken Blanchard

Mark, you amazing man: whatever the difficulties facing us in Afghanistan, and they may be insurmountable, the least one could expect is that the President would do his job. My bias aside, it is the Washington Post I am presenting here. These folks have never voted Republican in their lives.

Donald Pay

Really, KB? Conservatives want Obama to talk to Karzai except when he does. Just weeks ago conservatives were criticizing Obama for extending sympathy and apologies to Karzai for civilian deaths caused by American actions. I guess we can talk to our "ally" (your words) as long as we don't express condolence for killing them.

Donald Pay

...Or burning their sacred texts....or going on mass murdering rampages...I imagine that the Afghans are thinking, "With freinds like these, who needs enemies."

Donald Pay

But Obama must not talk about such things, according to what passes as conservative wisdom. So, KB, let's hear your list of approved topics that Obama must talk to Karzai about, and what he must not talk to Karzai about. Also, please specify how often he must talk to Karzai and by what means. I'm calling bullshit on all this nonsense.

Ken Blanchard

That's right, Donald. Between the extremes of apologizing over and over and not communicating at all, there is no middle ground. Such is the logic on Planet Pays.

D.E. Bishop

Well KB, it does seem difficult to know just when/where/how/who Obama ought to communicate.

You've complained about him being "in the bubble", but when he talks with non-political folks, that's wrong. You want him talking to political folks who reside "in the bubble."

Now you want him to talk to Karzai, except when he shouldn't talk to Karzai. It's not unreasonable to ask you what he ought to talk to Karzai about. And when? Should he resume weekly conversations?

On the other hand, you have been quite clear about your fiscal conservatism, yet when money disappears into Afghanistan, that's irrelevant. The money ought to keep flowing.

KB, you are hard to follow on some of these issues. I'd certainly appreciate a little more detailed clarification.

Donald Pay

Yeah, if you hang round this blog long enough you start to recognize that KB has these 2-3 memes that he recycles in slightly disguised from. This one is "Obama doesn't talk to X." Generally the echochamber provides "X", and usually it's some Republican obstructionist that Obama is avoiding. This time he seemed to get it from the Washington Post editorial page, and it turns out to be a Karzai, who is always whining about not being stroked enough as his family steals our money. Whatever.

Mark Anderson

Ken, the Washington Post is a neo-con, centrist newspaper, it has changed since Nixon.

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